09 Feb 05Crazy Apple Point/CounterPoint


On this edition of Crazy Apple Point/CounterPoint, we look at the competition between the iTunes Music Store and online subscription-based music services, such as Napster.

Taking the side for the iTunes Music Store model will be feared and respected Mac Internet pundit John Gruber. Taking the side for Napster will be a pack of wild baboons.

Mr. Gruber, you won the coin toss.


GRUBER: Thank you. The difference between the iTunes Music Store and subscription-based services could not be more stark. Apple’s model allows you to actually own, with certain restrictions, the music you purchase. Napster allows you to rent music, based on a monthly fee. Once you cancel your subscription to Napster, all of the music ceases to play. No more Judas Priest, no more Thin Lizzy, no more Iron Maiden. Just to name a few bands at random. Certainly, either model could be preferable based on how you listen to music, but Apple’s seems to provide more of a long-term return for your investment. Also, Napster’s advertising campaign, which sets up an inaccurate comparison to the iTunes Music Store as a straw man, is disingenous at best.


Thank you, John. Pack of wild baboons, your rebuttal?


PACK OF WILD BABOONS: WHOOOO!!! HAAAAAHHHHH!!! OOH-OOH!!! WHOOOO-OOOOOHHH!!! AAAAAAAAH-AAAAAAAAH!!! WHOOO-WHOOO!!! AHHH-AHHH!!! WHOOOOOO!!!


GRUBER: AAAAAGH! THEY’RE BITING ME! AAAAGH! NOT THE FACE! NOT THE FACE! HELP! HELP ME!!! NO!!! NOOOOOOOOOO!!! AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!


Um. Uh…

Oooh.

Hmm.

I have a feeling it might be hard to get him to come back now.

24 Responses to “Crazy Apple Point/CounterPoint”

  1. weedle says:

    first post

    and

    first post

  2. weedle says:

    wahoo!

    My first post is first post…

    Does it get better than that?

    second đŸ™‚

  3. Daddy Bartholomew says:

    Don’t look now, weedle, but there’s a pack of wild baboons breathing down your back…

  4. MacStansbury says:

    shouldn’t there be tons of posts by now?

  5. weedle says:

    Yes, I see that now…

    I hope Mr. Gruber doesn’t take this the wrong way, but I hope the baboons are now full!

  6. MacPower says:

    Ha, so much for baboons belonging to the intelligent primates.

    You get more answers from an eigth ball!

  7. Streetrabbit says:

    Why is it always baboons or sponges or obsolete toys representing the other side? Why can’t it be someone good like Tinky Winky or Christiane Amanpour?

    Just something to consider for next time.

  8. Huck says:

    Now that was a short Point/CounterPoint. Why don’t the Baboons face off against Michael Dell next time?

  9. 2000guitars says:

    How exactly is the straw man compared to the ITMS?

    Is disingenous “straw man speak” for disingenuous?

    Is dis-in-genuous the opposite of the opposite of genuous?

    What, exactly, about the Maiden is iron?

    Is what comes before the rebuttal the buttal??

    Or is it the Prebuttal?

    Now this is the Post Buttal, or buttal post, if you will…

  10. Psyko says:

    Stupid Baboons, they are just as stupid as Napster is. They can’t accept the good in life. What I mean by this is that they wouldn’t do jack to Michael Dell. They only hurt that which should not be hu-Wait, what are you doing here?!?! NOOO GO AWAY, NOOOOOOO STAYAWYAY FROOMEM SME YOU SJTUPUISD SBAABBUOOMNCSSSSS.

    Whew, I was able to beat them away with a metal bat with only minor injuries. Better check for damage to my G5. Uh-oh, where is my G5. Where is it!? Where did it go!? OH CRAP! you had better NOT tell my that that pile of dust is my G5, if you don’t like hanging with pain ugly butt monkeys you best show my my G5 is perfect shape. You have 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1…Ok, PAIN TIME PUNKS! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHDIE EVIL BABOON FIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    Crap, I still don’t have my G5 back. This blows.

  11. greenacres says:

    Damn, so close to 11…If I’d only stayed up later hitting the refresh key over and over and over…kind of like Karen Black with the knife in the ‘Trilogy of Terror’ classic movie from the 70’s. Funny, she kind of looked like a baboon in the Zulu warrior vignette. Bet she’d like some tasty G5, huh, Psyko. Mmmm, G5, tastes like pie.

  12. Switcher says:

    Hmmmm… Pie.

    13, by the way. Brrr. Scary.

    Lunchtime, here in the South of France.

  13. Brother Mugga says:

    Were the baboons wearing nappies?

    Because of their . . . you know…

    I like my nature sanitised.

  14. Oooh, Oooh! says:

    How about Steve Ballmer vs. the baboons… ?

    BALLMER: WHOOO!!! WHOOO!!! DEVEL… OOOOH!!! AAHHH!!!! WHOOOO!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

    WILD BABBOONS: WHOOO!!! WHOOO!!! OOOOH!!! AAHHH!!!! WHOOOO!!! WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

  15. Invisible Evil Baboon Chorus says:

    WHOOO!! WHOOO!! WHOOO!! WHOOO!! WHOOO!!

    AAHHHH!! AAHHHH!! AAHHHH!! AAHHHH!! AAHHHH!!

    WHOOO!! WHOOO!! WHOOO!! WHOOO!! WHOOO!!

    AAHHHH!! AAHHHH!! AAHHHH!! AAHHHH!! AAHHHH!!

    WHOOO!! WHOOO!! WHOOO!! WHOOO!! WHOOO!!

    AAHHHH!! AAHHHH!! AAHHHH!! AAHHHH!! AAHHHH!!

  16. Jason Young says:

    Really now. This was completely fabricated.

    The real John Gruber would likely bite the wild baboons back.

    Next time try realism, like pro wrestling

  17. Curious says:

    I would have liked to have heard Table value 43’s view point.

  18. Dweasel says:

    43 comes to the table with more value.

  19. 2000guitars says:

    It’s the value for +, or 00101011 binary, for short…

    Everybody knows that…

    Now can we quit talking about it? We other table values are feeling slighted. We have just as much to uh, bring to the table…

    thanks, I’ll be here all week…

    http://www.newebgroup.com/rod/newillusions/ascii.htm

  20. Psyko says:

    2000guitars, what about hex and octal? Hex is 2B and octal is 053. I mean, everybody knows that too, but you seem to have forgotten them. Shame on you.

    Thanks, I’ll be here all week too. Fixing his mistakes and oversights…

    http://www.that_info_came_from_Psyko's_head,_he_didn't_look_any_of_it_up.com/computer_engineering_is_hard_but_cool.

    Oh, and btw, I found my G5. I must have just been too tired to look properly last night. It was in my back pocket. So when you think about it, the fact that I thought it was a pile of dust is no big because I was tired. The real question is how I got myself to fall asleep with it in there. Compared to that dilemma how in the world I got it in there isn’t even a very important question. Hmmmm.

  21. U. D. Mann says:

    Random post

    And since PvT seems to be taking a dirt nap, can we begin the discussion here of how the baboons are part of the GMC?

  22. Psyko says:

    Is “P” for Psyko and “T” for Two?

  23. The Invisible Evil Boys' Agent says:

    The Baboons’ Chorus is infringing on my clients’ likeness and Trade Identity. We’ll see them in court, and no fair biting the judge.